There is real chatter questioning whether Harbaugh and new coordinator Mike McDaniel are actually a good fit, with talk of on-field disagreements feeding doubts about the offense's direction.

A lot of the discussion centres on whether LA's ugly loss to Arizona was a one-off wobble or a sign this team folds when expectations are high, with opinions split on how much stock to put in it.

Commentators keep framing this as an early must-win for the Chargers given the brutal run of games coming up, arguing another loss would leave almost no margin for error in their playoff push.

There's a strong feeling that the Raiders' physical, run-heavy identity behind their rebuilt front seven and Ashton Jeanty gives them a puncher's chance, even though most still expect Herbert's extra possessions at home…